Bohemian Rhapsody's Terrible Editing - A Breakdown

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Thomas Flight
Thomas Flight - Před 26 dny
John Ottman Editor of Bohemian Rhapsody Responds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy35ZJcxIg8
Adam Baldwin
Adam Baldwin - Před 11 dny
@Powderwombat Frankly, I don't give a crap about awards because I've seen way too many bad movies receive them. As to why we're talking about this scene, well it's the subject of the video, that's why.
Powderwombat
Powderwombat - Před 11 dny
​@Adam Baldwin It's one scene out of an entire movie... why is everyone so obsessed with this scene? Why not break down some of the good editing like the Live Aid scene. It's like people who never watched the whole movie think the whole thing has terrible editing based on this one scene that everyone keeps obsessing about. It won best editing which is voted on by professional film editors.
Adam Baldwin
Adam Baldwin - Před 24 dny
While I do think Ottman was being genuine in his response and his account of how "the scene" came to be, watching this again just reinforces how bad the editing is, and while it does appear to be shot fairly poorly, you nicely demonstrated how the scene can be improved using the existing footage. Ironically, Ottman claims the need to cut it down as one of the reasons for the terrible editing, and yet in order to make the scene better, you cut it down even further. I'm going to chop this up to tunnel vision on his part, as he was probably staring at this footage for hundreds by the time he was done with this scene. The cinematography is quite bizarre and rather bad, though. The extremely wide shot thrown in the middle, why did they even film that? It's as if you're filming a several minute-long scene that either starts or ends with a wide shot, but the characters in the shot are all doing things mid-scene. I would love to give Ottman the benefit of the doubt, and I do give him credit for taking responsibility for his editing, but there's no way around it, this scene was a major blunder. And while circumstances and studio pressure no doubt made things difficult, isn't that why you get paid to do the job? I think other editors encounter similar situations all the time, and the truly great ones rise above those problems and get the job done. I really don't mean to be judging Ottman, but I think he could have and should have done a better job.
ThePumpdog99
ThePumpdog99 - Před 12 hodinami
While the editing may have been a mess, the movie itself was like watching a sped up A&E Biography on Queen. It lightly touched on many, many subjects, but never completely told the story. The actors were great but the writing/script/direction was off. This was an R rated story made into a PG film
Andrewo Mennah ☣
Andrewo Mennah ☣ - Před dnem
Probably it won best editing just for the Live Aid scene, but it was mostly because of Malek, he did a really good job.
Jovis
Jovis - Před dnem
yeah I agree editing and transitioning between scenes is bad IMO
Mostafa Ahmed
Mostafa Ahmed - Před dnem
The movie is gre at
Rover Waters
Rover Waters - Před dnem
Bohemian Rhapsody guitar solo was written by Brian May
Gamemaster 365 6
Gamemaster 365 6 - Před dnem
I really don't see what the big deal is that was a good movie and the editing was the way it should be I believe you can't criticize something that you haven't even done yourself
IndieVisualSophie
IndieVisualSophie - Před 4 dny
Someone told me that sound editing and film editing are similar. If you don’t notice it whilst watching the film, then it’s good.
Pranav Mistry
Pranav Mistry - Před 5 dny
There are no set rules for a good edit. Rules are a trap and it restricts you. The only thing that matters is sticking to the story and the characters in it.
You cannot question an editors decision unless and until you were in that room.
Robert Bracey
Robert Bracey - Před 5 dny
A little knowledge can be dangerous. Your recut does not work very well at all because it fails to deliver what the original did - the original makes the audience increasingly uncomfortable, especially contrasted with the long tracking shot that opens the scene. An audience not familiar with editing will share the feeling of the band, feeling uncomfortable and off-balance, in fact you get this effect if you watch the scene without sound. Knowing something about editing causes you to think it is 'wrong' because it does not conform to basic guidelines. Whether it deserved an Oscar is hard to tell but there is a clear purpose to the editing of this scene.
Daniel Mims
Daniel Mims - Před 6 dny
I didn't like this movie at all. I wanting Sacha Baron Cohen and the more truthful movie he wanted to make . Cohen looks alot like Freddie and is British . Malek is really good and did good in the role but what could've been..
Aiden G
Aiden G - Před 6 dny
Might as well just put the camera on a stick and spin it.
rome8180
rome8180 - Před 6 dny
Seems to me this scene suffers from a lot of problems. Uninteresting cinematography and uninspired screenplay are just as significant to me as the editing. And those three things are probably interconnected. If a scene doesn't have a clear sense of purpose and tone, I imagine it's hard to edit it.
TheaterPup
TheaterPup - Před 6 dny
Yes, it did win. Deal with it.
Donald James
Donald James - Před 7 dny
don’t have to specify on editing, the movie is entirely terrible
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This is some Catwoman-level editing. And we all know how that one was received...
phaederkiel
phaederkiel - Před 9 dny
Sorry, but i have to disagree with your recut. I think the original is better.
I have not seen the movie,all of what i have seen is what you show here. Yet I feel that the nervousness that shows through the second shot of Brian before the two other men are shown is very well expressed in the shot. Everybody needs to look their best, and he checks on them if they are looking good, which we see even before they are shown.
I agree with most of the other things you say. The editing is surely flashy, possibly overly so.
The shot of three members without Brian could be rooted in the story, though. On one hand, the scene seems to be filmed somewhat from his angle (commenting on mercurys choice of dress, looking if the other guys look good), on the other hand: I would, not knowing anything about the history of queen, surmise that this character gets thrown out of the band in the movie.
These three guys are queen, the take seems to say.
Powderwombat
Powderwombat - Před 11 dny
You are talking about one 90 second scene out of an entire movie. Why not break down some of the good editing like the Live Aid scene or the bathroom sink transition into tv van satellite. It's like people who never watched the whole movie think the whole thing has terrible editing based on this one scene that everyone keeps obsessing about.

You're bitching about a 90 second long scene in a movie that's over 2 hours long bro, and claiming "Bohemian Rhapsody has bad editing", meanwhile you describe good editing techniques over footage of Bohemian Rhapsody doing exactly those techniques. What the fuck are you talking about? See the problem isn't really in this analysis, but it's in the presentation such as your stupid video title which is misleading, and idiots who haven't seen the movie or are complete sheep will somehow translate this into thinking the entire movie is this poorly edited. It's not. It won best editing which is voted on by professional film editors who know more about film editing than you do. John Ottman is an oscar winning Hollywood editor and you're a fucking Youtuber.
FonchCakes
FonchCakes - Před 12 dny
This is so hard to watch lmao. I almost can't believe the movie actually looks this way.
DefinitelyNotaPervert
DefinitelyNotaPervert - Před 13 dny
I think another issue with the editing of this film is that with the amount of cuts they have, along with the said spatial continuity, it ends up overwhelming the viewers' eyes, and therefore, making them feel tired, dissoriented, and needlessly confused, due to the amount of unnecessary information that's being presented all at once.
Satan Lover13
Satan Lover13 - Před 14 dny
7:22 Your cut is shit the other way is better
Enrique
Enrique - Před 14 dny
At the very least the grading is good
Jake Marko
Jake Marko - Před 16 dny
The Academy responds to lobbying and box office more than quality. Alot like Washington does with donors and special interest.
Elmo Jedburgh
Elmo Jedburgh - Před 17 dny
This Movie Is The Definition Of BULLSHIT
Mat Dub
Mat Dub - Před 18 dny
Freddy Mercury was pretty awesome so let's give the movie a lot of awards.
Caner Dalgıç
Caner Dalgıç - Před 19 dny
Bj
Gamefreak974
Gamefreak974 - Před 19 dny
I think he did this smart. Kept interest. Honestly if this was shot normally it’d probably get boring and I’d get lost in the background.
anna feretzaki
anna feretzaki - Před 23 dny
Come on you didn't like it!!!!
It was amazing
Theo
Theo - Před 26 dny
Dude such an awesome analysis
The Manhands
The Manhands - Před 26 dny
Now that I've seen the original along with John Ottman's response, I think it would be really easy for him to be more defensive. This is direct, candid criticism from a YOUTUBER (sarcasm) of a professional who is clearly accomplished. But that doesn't make you wrong. Your changes are an improvement, maybe even objectively. I wish he had acknowledged that. Also, his ad hominem about your voice and speaking style was definitely NOT professsional.
Meg ôwô
Meg ôwô - Před 27 dny
god the movie was so damn confusing and flip flopping all over the place, fuck it
bargh70
bargh70 - Před 28 dny
I didn't know what I didn't like l about this movie but I had a feeling there was definitely something. Editing. Yep.
ledepi34
ledepi34 - Před měsícem
*People must realize this: Me, as example. I would not mind this movie winning the Oscar if it had only one bad edited scene. I would not mind if it had only two bad scenes either.*
Rosen Bar
Rosen Bar - Před měsícem
This is the most fascinating video I’ve seen in some time. Thank u 4 explaining to the public. (And I loved the movie!)
badluckkennedy
badluckkennedy - Před měsícem
it doesnt look like freddy mercury, it looks like raimi malek in a wig and false teeth, not to mention the movie was directed by a convicted pedophile
murtadha96
murtadha96 - Před měsícem
Brilliant analysis
kuntexterminator
kuntexterminator - Před měsícem
I hated the parts where it just showed characters tilting their heads and staring blankly.
Ben Sagal-Morris
Ben Sagal-Morris - Před měsícem
Compare this movie’s editing to Goodfellas’ editing, and you’ll see why this editing sucks.
John Bailey
John Bailey - Před měsícem
Thanks brian singer
Max Isola
Max Isola - Před měsícem
I would say that Edgar Wright’s movies are the best examples of having editing that is noticeable, but still great.
Mercuri Kid
Mercuri Kid - Před měsícem
Okay I understand but this is the best movie to be made in my opinion.
ItsBadgerr
ItsBadgerr - Před měsícem
okay, the movie was supposed to be about an important man’s life time, he is a legend, and they have to get the movie in less than a couple hours. They are going to have to cut out a lot of things, they have to get the basics. You people can not be mad about everything that is left out because the band had done a lot during this time. You people need to be grateful that John, Roger, and Brian agreed to do this film.
There were A LOT of excellent editing in this movie and you are telling a group of people that this movie has terrible editing, what a shame. And you must not have anything to do in your life if you are going to nitpick their editing mistakes. Did you actually see the Live Aid scene? Did you see the camera angle? Did you see the camera angles and movement throughout the movie? And since you had all the time to nitpick these mistakes J hope you realize that their editing skills mixed the actors voice and the group of the actual band’s voice together. Just wow, ungrateful.
Big Boss Sam
Big Boss Sam - Před měsícem
Disco Deacy you really thought writing out this long paragraph would make the editing any less bad
Gordon Antell
Gordon Antell - Před měsícem
This is from somebody who isn't a Film Editor or has ever worked on a Studio film. Utter garbage from an armchair critic.
Morten Aanstad
Morten Aanstad - Před měsícem
You don't need to be a filmmaker to recognize bad editing; you base your judgment on the standard other filmmakers have set
Yubi K.
Yubi K. - Před měsícem
I love coming back to this video every now and then.
Neh-Bih Sangbong
Neh-Bih Sangbong - Před měsícem
The editing of this film made me pull a gasket.
Gachachii 2
Gachachii 2 - Před měsícem
Wow. The editor of the movie just dropped an F-bomb in a podcast. SKSKSKSK


Also, Gwilym Lee is a _bit_ taller than Brian May.
Gwilym: 1.88 m
Brian: 1.87 m
I'M SHOOK
Carter Creative
Carter Creative - Před měsícem
I normally like your videos but this one is very pedantic and overly "know it all" in tone. Film editing, like anything creative, can be achieved in many ways.
Morten Aanstad
Morten Aanstad - Před měsícem
@Carter Creative Said the guy who was emotional in both his original post and in his first reply. You're such a hypocrite with double standards
Carter Creative
Carter Creative - Před měsícem
@Morten Aanstad I disagree, no need to get emotional.
Morten Aanstad
Morten Aanstad - Před měsícem
@Carter Creative What makes you an authority of what people don't get bothered by and not? You're also contradicting yourself by claiming that everything is up each and everyone like there are no standards or authorities for anything, but then come off as an authority yourself by claiming that the editing doesn't bother anyone. There's also something called "being critical to sources", and if the option is to listen to someone who has done some basic research (yes, BASIC research) on film editing or a random anarchist troll, then my decision is pretty obvious. "Pedantic and overly know it all tone". That's just some lazy excuse and defense mechanism people use just because they don't understand something or feel alienated, almost as if everything in this world has to be written for high school students
Carter Creative
Carter Creative - Před měsícem
@Morten Aanstad I watched the movie as your average movie goer and the editing did not bother me in the slightest. I very much doubt it bothered 99% of people who've seen the film either. It really is as simple as that and does not require analysis as such analysis is purely subjective, nothing more.
Morten Aanstad
Morten Aanstad - Před měsícem
If you're going to challenge the conventions, then your suggestion should at least be something that's still aesthetically pleasing. For example, you could be creative and original by making a Star Wars movie consisting solely of Jar Bar Binks literally pissing over Han Solo's grave, but I don't think most people would enjoy that
Marymead2
Marymead2 - Před měsícem
who put you in charge?
the Hitler of the Heart
the Hitler of the Heart - Před měsícem
The Oscar's make a lot more sense when you replace the word Best with the word Most.
57 Year Old James Bond
57 Year Old James Bond - Před 27 dny
My favorite category is Most Picture
Pipsta
Pipsta - Před měsícem
I WAS THE ONLY PERSON IN MY FAMILY TO NOTICE THIS..............
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